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Hollyleaf Vs Stonefur by Dragon-In-A-Blue-Box Hollyleaf Vs Stonefur by Dragon-In-A-Blue-Box
To everyone saying that Hollyleaf is an original character and did everything she thought was right.

(BTW, this is mostly a pro-Stonefur post XD)

I noticed many similarities between the stories of Hollyleaf and Stonefur.

Stonefur is like Hollyleaf, but done right.

Stonefur went through worse scenarios, but ended up better.

Stonefur is one of the best characters in the series.

But why don't as many people like Stonefur than Hollyleaf?

I am stumped.

(I literally drew this in half an hour XD)


Guys, Hollyleaf is not a badass.
She ran away from her problems. That is the weakest and most pathetic thing someone can do.

Stonefur is a badass. He faced his problems head-on.

You like Hollyleaf because of her tragic past? Stonefur's is miles more tragic if that's all you look for in a character!
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12275 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2014
can i do something like this? i will give credit?

and i like tame boft holly is my second fave she-cat and stone is my second fave tom
Sikey101 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i really stonefur ((he was really the first time i cried at a warrior's death during the books))
and literally everyone else forgot him???? like seriously this and one other picture are the only things I've seen as a pro-Stonefur post
And, yes I agree that Stonefur handled his problems well ((at first, they were both mad but in the end they were forgiving)) and he died honorably protecting Featherpaw and Stonepaw ((The way he was killed, however, isn't honorable as it's just flat out cheating/murder from Darkstripe and Blackfoot vs. Stonefur))
Idk im just glad to find something talking about Stonefur and how good he was because he was cool and literally everyone forgot him 
Matahastic Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Well, I absolutely like Hollyleaf better because Stonefur is just so boring. Owo
I mean, that's the thing, he did everything right, he's a Mary-Sue. That's why so many people hate Firestar.
Not that I don't like Stonefur, he's noble and strong.
But for me, Hollyleaf is a really awesome and interesting character, because she _did_ make mistakes, because she _was_ weak and ran away. She behaved like a dump bitch, but she regretted it and took a 2th chance. You forgot that she made a great development, never forgot her clan and came back one day to re-join it _and_ that she gave her own like to save Ivypool. (a bit like Stonefur?)
I think many people don't like fictional characters because they are friendly and strong and do everything right, but because they are just interesting and fascinating.
warriorgirl4ever Featured By Owner Edited Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"more people like hollyleaf more the stonefur WHY exactly?"
Fandom logic. T-T

i still like stonefur better than hollybitch.
Red-as-Ice Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Stonefur is awesome. I also liked Hollyleaf before the half-clan stuff going down, and thought she was badass when she saved Ivypool from Hawkfrost. I do feel bad for her when she died... I don't think she ever got to know Leafpool in a mother-daughter kind of thing.
But she did run away from her problems which is probably one of the worst things to do, and Stonefur faced them head on. Stonefur is a true badass. I really don't think they're very comparable, though, as the problem was presented in a very different matter.
Bluestar going insane and saying "my kits!" and Mistyfoot and Stonefur were basically saying "WTF?" They reacted badly in the beginning too, but they did forgive her at the end.
Hollyleaf was worried that she and her brothers were going to burn in a fire, then suddenly Squirrelflight just says "Kill them then, they're not my kits." and Hollyleaf... did what she did. But she did forgive Leafpool.
Just my opinion on the matter.
Dragon-In-A-Blue-Box Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to disagree with the "They're not my kits" argument. At first I was like "Jesus Squirrel you heartless bitch" but that was when I underestimated her intelligence. Ashfur was looking for the worst way to hurt Squirrelflight which was to kill her children, and she knew this. By saying "Kill them then, they're not my kits." she was using reverse psychology to save them. By saying that she was manipulating Ashfur into thinking they meant nothing to her and that her pride meant more to her than her kits (which is why he changes his plan to publically humiliating her at the Gathering) and thus he lets Lion, Jay and Holly live.

Squirrel is one clever son of a bitch and is willing to sacrifice her own dignity to save the lives of Holly, Jay and Lion. It pissed me off greatly that none of the three figured this out, especially Jay though he's one of my favourite characters and the smartest of the group.

Holly's just a blind, impulsive piece of filler.
Red-as-Ice Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Although that's not what I meant when I said that, I do agree with you very much on that. I never liked Squirrelflight, but goddamn she's clever. It's a shame that no one ever figured that out.
PHIZBENANDPOKEMONRUL Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Flamesheild! I like Holly more. YES SHE DID FOGIVE LEAFPOOL. She dedicated berself to tge code to lezrn her parents brokeit by GIVING birth to her. I feel bad for her.
Dragon-In-A-Blue-Box Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
She was still a huge bitch with bad writing and poor character development and illogical impulses
PHIZBENANDPOKEMONRUL Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Poor development? She saved Ivypool's Life.
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